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 | Donnie Richards
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2003-01-29 48371
I have heard different opinions on power rakes from two people. Are they worth the expense? I do final grade work on new construction and septic repair grade.
Any information would be helpful.
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| kay
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2003-01-29 48376
If you are talking about something like the Harley rake, I would strongly suggest you rent one and try it out. The number of people using them is growing. Another interesting observation is when attending (tomorrow in Milwaukee) last year, the number of manufacturers displaying their tractors that also featured the Harley rake along with them. Must have been a reason, and I would suspect they were impressed with them. I will verify if the trend is the same tomorrow. ....
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| TheGrut1
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4 West Michigan
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2003-01-29 48382
Speaking of Harley rakes, I was looking to rent a unit this spring to prep a field for grass. The trouble is, it takes a hydraulic hook-up, and my B2710 doesn't have the rear hydraulics. Is there a kit I can get from my dealer and put it on myself? Or is it something they would need to do? Or, is there a way I could use the controls from the FEL after the FEL was removed?
I'd appreciate any feedback on this. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2003-01-30 48397
I have one rear outlet but need two when I mount my forklift. I got my hydraulic top-link for the forklift carriage tile with extra long hoses so I could run it from the loader bucket circuit. The loader valve has quick-connects on the cylinder hoses so steeling the bucket valve is pretty easy.
The rental unit probably has it's own control valve, and running it from a power-beyond kit would be better than from a valve controlled outlet such as a loader valve. My rear outlet is valve controlled and I run my backhoe from it, which would be similar to running a hydraulic motor. I bungee cord the valve open, and I have to be certain not to hook up the hoses backwards. Factory and after-market kits for either power-beyond of valve controlled rear outlets should be available.
Running from a loader valve outlet may make sense for a one-time rental use. The unit probably doesn't have long enough hoses but extension hoses may cost less to make than installing a rear outlet. The extra length and fittings may cut down on flow a bit and heat the oil more than a standard hookup. If heat became a problem the light use of some rest periods should manage the problem. I would check the recommended minimum flow for the rake to make sure the 2710 can power it.
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| TheGrut1
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4 West Michigan
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2003-01-30 48443
Got some info from the Harley rake people. The hydraulics are just to change the roller angle (create windrows for stone, roots, etc). The unit is PTO driven.
They do make a manual adjustment tube to take the place of this hydraulic cylinder. The rep said most rental places should have this manual tube.
I like inexpensive solutions! ....
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| TheGrut1
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4 West Michigan
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2003-01-30 48444
Got some info from the Harley rake people. The hydraulics are just to change the roller angle (create windrows for stone, roots, etc). The unit is PTO driven.
They do make a manual adjustment tube to take the place of this hydraulic cylinder. The rep said most rental places should have this manual tube.
I like inexpensive solutions! ....
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| kay
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2003-01-30 48447
The Grut1 had it right (twice! smile). There is a mechanical adjustable link to put in place of a cylinder.
The show in Milwaukee today included many Harley rakes on a variety of different brand machines (skid steers and tractors), and some other power rake brands (Landpride's looked almost identical). Harley booth had some great video of the rakes in operation. Looks like they can go onto a pretty rough construction site and in one, or two, passes make it a pretty respectable area ready or close to ready, for grass seed.
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| JackHerr
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 46 SE PA
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2003-01-31 48482
Look into a Preseeder landscaping tiller from ATI Corporation. Preseeders are more aggressive, heavier, and better built than the others. (Compare the size of hinge pins, carbide teeth, and drive chains.) The proof is inside. Commercial work demands commercial equipment.
The working depth can be adjusted from the seat on-the-go, ideal for blending the repair work into existing turf on your septic jobs. Also, Preseeders use a rear roller instead of tires. No tracks in the finished seedbed.
I have used them in a variety of conditions. They are the machines of choice in this area of the country. Today, I talked to a landscaper with one 17 years old! He is finally retiring it, but replacing it with a brand new one. How's that for a testimony? Try abcgroff.com to see some Preseeder photos. ....
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| Dana Trumpp
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2003-01-31 48490
I noticed landpride has two diffent rollers you can get, one has short rods, the same type there pulverizer rear roller is and the other is smooth with a spiral grove in it. which would be the best. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2003-02-01 48501
I was thinking that they were PTO driven when I wrote the hose comment but must have gotten lost thinking about hoses and valves.
I guess there are several decent approaches in the comment for getting rear hydraulics to infrequent uses but the heat, flow and power-beyond issues mentioned aren't too relevant. Now that I think about it, I can't come up with any particular advantage of a hydraulic motor over a pto drive for a power rake (unlike post-hole augers) but who knows.
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